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Poll: Who wins Boston vs. Angels?
October 4th, 2009, 8:50 pm · 212 Comments · posted by Mark Whicker, ocregister.com
It’s almost here. The series some of you can’t wait for. The series some of you wish would never happen again.
The Red Sox meet the Angels this week, probably in Game 1 Thursday, and we’ll see if history repeats and repeats and repeats….
Who wins the Boston-Angels series?
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I think the Angels time has come this year. If we go out, i want it to be swinging and running aggressive on the base paths.I also believe we are catching the Red Sox on a down period due to injuries.It’s now or never! No excuses.
As long as we have Beckett and Lester with Papelbon in the bullpen, all is well in Beantown. All we need is one of the first two games and we can once again close out the weak Halos. Your team folds like a deck of cards against the Redsox. It’s ok, at least your not expected to win anyway.
You are exactly right, Bob. Angels fans say the same thing every October, sadly. You’d think they’d learn?
They have Won 2 World Series in 90 Years and they are A Baseball Dynasty, Oh wait the Yankees are the Baseball Dynasty…….Admit it Your Red Sox Stunk for 86 Years…Admit it Marie.Admit It!!!!!!!!
And the Angels are something to be proud of? LOL Let’s start with the 1986 post season…LOL. Oh, and if Boston “sucks”, what does that say about the Angels, who can’t get past them in the post season? LOL
hey boston bob angels are up 2-0 still think the bosox are gonna win? that means they have to win 3 in a row and against this angels club it is highly unlikely. hope your watching on Sunday when Scott Kazmir dominates and whoever you throw at us won’t be Lester or Lackey(who are your 2 best pitchers and we beat them both)
haha I meant lester or beckett.
Every year in the past(2004, 2007, 2008), the Angels have had “issues” heading into the post season. This year, the team is healthy, playing loose, played meaningful games the last week of the regular season, has a very dangerous lineup with power, and arguably has the best rotation in the game. Anything can happen in a five game series but this is the Angels year. Angels win it in 4.
Best rotation, yea maybe in the AL Worst. Sorry, Lester and Beckett alone can handle your softy lineup. As in the past, the Angels will be on the Disney cruise early this year. Leave the postseason to the real power houses in the AL.
Don’t get too ahead of yourself. It’s one thing to think and believe Boston will win and another thing to be overly cocky. There is some different about this year and I think you may be suprised what you see come out of this series.
What exactly is different, Stephen? Saying “there is something different about this year” over and over does not make it so. You know what would make this series more exciting? If Mike Scoscia promised to quit if the Angels lose to Boston. But that would never happen. Mike has a cush gig winning the tiny, weak AL West year after year and appearing in embarrissingly bad Howard’s commercials.
Marie, I only said “there is something different about this year” once in this blog. So I have not been saying it over and over. The team has shown what they can do, now they just need to do that in the playoffs.
I believe all of these Angel fans said the same things last year. Fast forward to another Boston series win….
I hope for a better result and think the angels will take them in 4. The key will be game 1. We must win it, if we lose it the doubts will come back.
Our bullpen is better with Santana but I have little faith in Fuente and his 90 mile an hour fastball. We will have to score a lot of runs!
Go Angels!
Papelbon owns the late game heroics. Your bullpen will lose you at least one game in this series. Boston will then take back the home field and we all know the Angels stats in Fenway. All you have to do is ask, Lackey, Guerero or Figgins.
I like the Halos chances “if” Soscia has learned from his past successes and is not afraid of hurting a ’superstars’ feelings and jerking him out of the game before it gets away, ala 2002. I know its a different team but the simple brillance is undenyable. I think that with the pitching depth of this years team, it is much more plausible. I really admire Mr. Mike but am not afraid to attempt to be positively critical. The Angels are peaking and that is scary, especially if you are an opponent.
I tend to think that the ‘angry, combative, super aggresive’ ‘R Sox’ have played that card once too often and may still show fang but not enough bang.
With the home crowd really hungry to see another world series banner I believe if the team takes game one it could be over in three. Then all is possibe.
Angels in 5.
Boston in 4. Ducks….never.
On the subject of hurting a ’superstars’ feelings, Scioscia better stick Bam-Bam Morales in the cleanup spot instead of Super-Dud (aka Super Vlad). Vlad hasn’t done squat in the 4 spot all year and he still swings the bat at bad pitches like a blindfolded kid trying to hit a piñata.
Mike also needs to yank the pitcher(s) at the FIRST sign of trouble, not wait until it’s too late like years past. Do this and I see the Angels taking it in 4 - GO HALOS!!!!
My favorite is when Vlad swings at balls in the dirt. Classic stuff. I wish they would edit all that video together and put “Benny Hill” music under it.
Angels will loss in 5 - Angels will take game 2 and thats it. it will be Red Sox and Yankees and Yankees all the way
The Angels place in baseball history in 2009 seems to be one of destiny. Right from the beginning of the season, they began to face problematic injuries to key hitters and pitchers, notwithstanding the death of their young pitcher Adenhart. As the season unfolded, the Angels had player after player that rose up in big ways to inspire and lead their team - as though the team had a purpose or destiny. Despite having to face the Red Sox, and albeit a beaten down Red Sox from injuries and having been lessoned by the Yankeys, I think the Angels will be OK. Each post season game the Angels will be tested. And in each game I think we will see players rise up big, unlike last year when they folded and went home.
Beaten down? I’ll take Beckett, Lester and Bucholtz over your starting 3 any day of the week. We own the Angels and the Fenway curse will continue.
LOL @ The Angels place in baseball history in 2009 seems to be one of destiny!!! The high-priced Angels underperformd at the beginning of the season and were able to rebound because they play in the smallest division in all of baseball. That has nothing to do with destiny, my friend.
Underperformed? What do you expect with most of your rotation on the DL plus a death of another? I guess beneath it all, you just have high expectations for the team and think the Angels are a great team afterall.
Judging by the cost of their 2009 team payroll, they should be incredible. Sadly, they have not.
If that is the case then the Yanks should be Baseball GODS and the Mets would be their offspring.
Excuses excuses excuses. Angels fans have nothing but excuses. And lame ones at that.
Hey guys… don’t even bother with Marie there. Go take a look at this http://whicker.freedomblogging.com/2009/10/06/poll-who-are-the-managers-of-the-year/5539/#comment-3587 You’ll pretty much see Marie’s here for nothing more then to cause issue and create trouble. Nothing of weight, merit or meaning. Just hate.
And who knows more about hate, nothing of weight, merit or meaning than you, Jiz?
Scioscia will not not change how he handles his players or how he approaches each game, even if the season is on the line in the playoffs. Brilliance or not, I’m not sure. His approach works for the season, can’t argue with that. The team has performed horribly in recent playoffs, can’t blame him for their horrible hitting and defense. He did choose to have Reggie Willits in for defense in right field twice, and he misplayed a ball each time (game 2 & 4) in the 9th inning. The squeeze. Bringing Shields back out for another inning in game 4, after shields pitched two innings the night before. None of those decisions worked out for him, but you can’t NOT hit w/ risp and NOT slug the ball and expect to win. Not when your starting pitchers aren’t putting up zeroes and your defense isn’t making slightly above routine plays.
This year COULD be different, but in a 5 game series you can’t afford to have a couple off nights.
Boston owns the Angels. It will be another dominant performance by the Mighty Redsox. We will then contain the Spankees on our way to another World Series ring. Honestly, can you Angel fans take a look at your stats in September. Weak to say the least. Sorry but maybe next year.
How many of you will come back and admit you’re wrong when the Red Sox humiliates the Angels once again this year?
Marie Has Probably Never been to Boston….haha .. I’ll bet she Wreaks of ChoWdah!!!!!!!!!!
How many of you will come back and admit you’re wrong when the Red Sox humiliate the Angels once again this year? These comments remind me of last year’s and, mysteriously, all the posters quietly disappeared after the Angels got bounced in four games.
I’ll second that Marie. Redsox Nation knows how to man up when the pressure is on. It’s all about the make up of the players. We thrive on it all year in front of the Fenway Faithful. It will be another 3 to 1 series with the Angel fans wondering again why they can’t win.
If BOSTON is So Great why don’t You Chowder-heads Go Back????????
The chowder thing is funny and original. You should type it a third time. Or are you too busy looking for other lines to steal from “The Simpsons”?
Will you take your own advise and admit you were wrong if the Angels do win?
By the way, the comments people are making are not over-confident answers, so they do not need to come back and admit they were wrong if the Angels lose because they will not be coming back to rub it your face that they were right. All they are doing, is standing behind their Angels in support.
Blah blah blah Angels only in playoffs because they play in the smallest division in MLB blah blah
Nice comeback, Marie. Your childish reply reminds me of the the poster *takealick* who was an Angels basher.
So let me guess, if Texas won the AL West, it would have been because the Angels choked and not because of the “small” division, right?
Just because the AL West is the smallest division, doesn’t mean it’s the weakest. Are you saying the Detroit Tigers and/or Minnesota Twins deserve it more?
By the way, blah blah blah is not a valid argument and takes away any seriousness you may have had in your comments.
DarkAngelOC, I agree.
Of course DarkAngel, because there is only one Angels basher in the world, right? And that person must also be a Dodgers fan, according to you. You should do your homework. There are A LOT of people, local and otherwise, who laugh at the Angels.
They will Never Admit they are wrong Because Boston Has the Most Obnoxious Arrogant Fans in the WORLD
Mr. Wheat can’t say anything else about the Mighty Redsox Nation so the fan bashing goes on. We on the other hand are confident and winners. Someday you will learn.
Who is “we”, Jake? I didn’t see you on the field.
Don’t Choke on Your Chowdah Marie
Waaaaa-waaaaaaah! Zing! Bells n whistles! Kazoo! Third time, same lame joke. Cue the clowns, people.
Angels in four? You CANNOT be serious! Red Sox will win this one because Angels have an inferiority complex against Boston.
The Angels look calm and confident. They have won 7 of their last 8 games. The starters have been lights out since the aquisition of Kazmir. Kendry, Aybar, Rivera, and Napoli had a very solid end to the season as have many other position players. The defense is better than I have seen in quite some time.
The only two factors that scare me are the bullpen and Lackey. The pen has been scary at times but if Fuentes gets on a roll (and he is capable of getting on good roles) he’s as good as any closer (he has around an 88% success rate in closing out games which is not bad). Bulger is a huge question mark but if he is up to form, he and Santana will make the pen much better. Lackey is the other person that I am not sure about. He often times gets too emotional and looses his composure on the mound. When he does that he is more prone to giving up a long ball. However if the offense gets on the board early Lackey can shut down the Sox.
Long Story short; The OFFENSE will come thru in a big game and the Angels take it in 4
LOL @ “The Angels won 7 of their last 8″. What you fail to mention is that those games were at te end of the season, against teams that were eliminated from contention. What an accomplishment!! You should throw a parade, Mike V.
Marie. What are you, a Dodger fan?
The reason for this poll is to get predictions. If I wanted accountability I’d head to Vegas and put some money down on the Angels. This is a forum where you come to share your thoughts. What makes it fun is that NO ONE knows exactly what will happen. This unpredicability is what makes sports so great. And if I am wrong about my prediction . . . SO WHAT!? Optimism is not a crime.
Why so angry, Mike? Oh, and of course I must be a Dodgers fan. Anyone who does not praise the Angels unconditionally is a Dodgers fan, right?
I seriously want to know why Marie come on these boards!?!? If your not an Angel fan then why come on and make comments to get people all in a hiffy? It is really strange to me. Marie is on these blogs only to cause problems and get people all riled up because she never received enough attention through out her life and searches for it on her computer through blogging, and every one in her life didn’t like her so she feels like she must make people not like her on the boards still through blogging…very strange women or man.
It is the Angels year hopefully this year, but if not I am sure all you Angel fans will still be around, may not be on the boards, but who cares who wants to be on the boards any way, because we probably have some things that are a little more important then blogging and the season will be over any way so there is not point to be on the boards any more. Angels will take in 5.
the dude!, don’t get your panties in a wad. Are you really so insecure that you cannot handle opposing opinions on your mesage boards? If so, then start your own website and set the rules. I, for one, happen to think the Angels are only in the playoffs because they play in the smallest division in all of baseball. They spent $40 million more on team salary this year than the Texas Rangers, yet it took the Angels until the last week of the season to clinch the division? How sad. And Angels fans think Mike Scoscia should be manager of the year? LOL Give me a break. If anything, Scoscia should be fired if the Halos cannot get past the Red Sox this post season. I predict the Red Sox will send the Angels home early again. I also predict there will be empy seats in the Big A again this post season, just like there was during last year’s series vs Boston. Maybe Angels fans are starting to learn?
Welcome back, takealick!
Marie, can you tell us why you come on here then? You never attempt to leave any valid comments/critique for or against the Angels.
As compared to you Stephen and DarkAngelsOC aka takealick? Actually, I did make several points. But since you missed it, I’ll say it again. I believe the Angels only made the playoffs because they play in the smallest division in all of baseball. What is there was another team in the AL West who played the Angels the way Texas did this season? Think the Angels still would’ve won the west? What if the Texas Rangers had spent an additional $40 million on team salary, so it matched what the Angels spent? Think the Halos still would’ve won the west? The Angels, once again, won the AL West by default and as a result I believe they will get bounced from the playoffs quickly.
You say that over and over, but it doesn’t matter if the Angels are in a 4 team division or a 5 team division to determine which is easier. It’s easier to win a division when you don’t have to win as many games, such as the AL Central. I am not trying to take anything away from the Tiger or Twins, but you really should be using this argument for the winner in the AL Central.
The AL West Average Record is: 86-76
The AL Central Average Record is: 76-86
The AL East Average Record is: 84-78
When you do the math and average the records together, you will find that the AL West has the best record in the AL. Mathematically I do not see how the AL West is the weakest division. The Central has 2 of the 3 worse teams in the AL and the East has the other one.
If you want to see how I got my numbers, simply add all of the wins together then divide it by the amount of teams in the division and you will get the average wins for the division. Then do the same thing for losses.
Marie (aka takealick, aka Debbie Downer) - You worry so much about team salaries…why don’t you go on the Mets (2nd highest payroll) board and rub their noses in it. BTW, once the Yanks (highest payroll) come up short again this year you can go pi$$ them off too!!
Do you even have a baseball team you root for, or just come here for attention?
Nice try, Stephen, but you are wrong. The Angels only have to beat three teams to win their division. Teams in every other division have to beat four teams, and one division has to beat five. You know the Angels have an advantage, and if the AL West had five or six teams, Halo fans would complain to no end. If Angels fans had any real confidence in their team, they would acknowledge that advantage and be embarrassed by it. Instead, the baseball Gods let the Angels embarrass themselves in the post season. And I’m okay with that.
So, in closing Marie has dodged my question(s) just as takealick has in posts past. So, we can all assume that Marie/takealick is just a miserable person looking to spoil the fun of being a baseball fan. Just like the “anonymous” scout who says the Angels will not win a game, Marie will not justify her comments with any justified replies. Who does she root for? Who knows and who cares.
Cheese and crackers man, at least ArmadaFan let the world know he is obessesed with “Los Angeles” being a part of the team name, and this is HIS reason we are “cursed”…LOL!!!
Yes, yes, drop the LA name and win the world series, don’t take PED’s during playoffs or we will be caught and the Blue Crew Dodgers are the real L.A. team, not fake Angel Red…(sorry for beating you to the punch and taking the fun out of you typing this over and over and over and over and over again, ArmadaFan)
Marie, It doesn’t matter how many teams there are in a divison. Only one can win it and the West is not as weak as everyone says it. Average wise I just proved it. The Angels finiished seciond in the AL, which means the Angels would of won the AL Central if they were in it, they would of finished 2nd in the AL East but would of won the Wild Card because they have a better record than Boston, they would of won the NL West, the NL Central and even the NL East.
Also, the AL West division did no favors to the Angels this year. They had better records against the AL Central and AL East Divisions. So, a huge part of their victories were against the supposedly better divisions. Also, didn’t the Angels have a really great record against the NL West? You cannot keep using the excuse the Angels only won the Division because they are in a weak division. Because, they are in it for more than one reason and the division is NOT weak just because it has only four teams. The Angels would of been in the playoffs no matter what, even if they were in ANY of the other divisions.
Angels records against the teams they played this year:
Oakland 12 7
Boston 5 4
Seattle 10 9
Minnesota 6 4
Detroit 4 5
Baltimore 8 2
Yankees 5 5
Toronto 4 4
Kansas City 9 1
Texas 8 11
Dodgers 3 3
Whitesox 4 5
Tampa Bay 4 2
San Diego 3 0
San Francis 3 0
Colorado 2 1
Arizona 3 0
Cleveland 4 2
Overall the Angels were against each Division:
AL West: 30-27
AL Central: 27-17
AL East: 26-17
NL West: 14-4
The Angels are in The Play-offs, Marie, because The Rangers pulled of the biggest choke the last 1/3 of the season since The Angels collapse in 1995. The AL West, is week. I saw and listened some of the games on TV against Seattle and Oakland, which is half the teams in the AL West, and neither of those teams can hit a bear in the butt with a 2X4, so The Angels won’t have to much trouble winning ALW Championships, and less Seattle and Oakland can actually get players who can actually HIT the ball.
Both Los Angeles Teams are Divisions Champs this year. The Dodgers won it in The NL West, The Rangers won it for The Halos in The AL West [==choke==].
The Dodgers came close too. Their advantage was that they were able to beat Colorado the last two series. Colorado had it’s chances to go ahead of the Dodgers.
MARIE, Nice comments and straight to the point. You can outspend the AL West teams but not the AL East ones. Also Manager Mike’s style is best suited in the National League. It will be a good series and we do respect the Angels. Boston in 4 games.
Jake, the Angels have a better record then the Red Sox this year. They would of finished ahead of them in they were in the AL East.
More nonsense from the keyboard of Stephen. If the Angels were in the east, they would’ve had a different schedule, so you don’t know where they would’ve finished. Do you ever think before you type?
This poll is for people to express their OPINIONS. Yes, most of us would love to see the Angels finally mow thru the Redsox, but we all have to wait for that series to begin and end. Angel fans are staying as positive as possible. We know the history. Don’t like it, but it’s in the past. If we do not let go of the past, there is no future to look forward to…MARIE.
Now, off subject, but I’ve been wanting to mention this for a long time:
To ALL those Dodger fans who talked all that SMACK two months into the 2009 season on the Angels blogs/boards with their “we have the best record in baseball” BS…guess what?
OUR Angels came out with a better record than your boys in blue.
So to all you Los Doyer Fans (especially you, ARMADAFAN):
CHOKE ON THAT, SLAPNUTS!!!!!!!
****GO ANGELS****
So to recap, DarkAngelOC whines when others talk smack, then proceeds to do the same. Hypocrite much?
Do you really want to compare the Dodgers and Angels? There are just as many advantages that favor the Dodgers, if you wanna go that route. Let’s start by comparing last year’s post season…which team got humiliated in the first round? Hmmm, the Angels. Which team only had to beat 3 teams to make it to the playoffs this year? Yup, the Angels. Which team actually had to battle a contender the last month of the season? The Dodgers!
You should be more concerned about the Angels matchup with the Red Sox. It’s not like the Angels fill be facing any more NL teams this year. LOL
Sorry to burst your bubble there Marie, but who’s talking smack? I state FACTS, dear.
Talking smack would be me saying that the Angels are going to destroy the Red Sox and win the World Series.
You see, Angel fans had to put up with Dodger fans coming on these boards two months into the season with their “best record in baseball” garbage. This was a bold and meaningless statment to make with 4+ months to go.
FACT - Angels finished with a better record than the Dodgers.
FACT - NO ONE, I repeat, NO ONE knows who will win the Sox vs. Angels Series let alone the World Series.
FACT - I know you and takealick are the same person.
FACT - I know ArmadaFan will put his two cents in around midnight and will be given change for his thoughts.
>”FACT - I know ArmadaFan will put his two cents in around midnight and will be given change for his thoughts.”<
Thanks for The Invite.
Los Angeles Baseball is (and always will be) True Blue;
http://billworld92683.tripod.com/censor
Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, DarkAngelOC, but you wouldn’t know “facts” if they kicked you in the head.
FACT - The Angels annual post season humiliation at the hands of the Red Sox hs become as much of a tradition as Knott’s Halloween Haunt.
FACT - The OC Register is in bed with the Angels and Ducks and, as a result, will ban anyone who does not praise these two teams.
FACT - You are an Internet troll and will make lame excuses over the next week as the Angels fall apart in the playoffs. Instead of acknowledging the Angels pathetic performance, you will try to shift the focus toward the Dodgers.
What do Hell and the World Series have in common?
–No Angels…
Right.. except for that time they won the world series.
And how many years ago was that? One? Two? Maybe three? No. So who cares. The joke works.
So to recap, DarkAngelOC whines when others talk smack, then proceeds to do the same. Hypocrite much?
Do you really want to compare the Dodgers and Angels? There are just as many advantages that favor the Dodgers, if you wanna go that route. Let’s start by comparing last year’s post season…which team got humiliated in the first round? Hmmm, the Angels. Which team only had to beat 3 teams to make it to the playoffs this year? Yup, the Angels. Which team actually had to battle a contender the last month of this season? The Dodgers! (The Angels didn’t beat Texas, the Rangers sunk themselves)
You should be more concerned about the Angels matchup with the Red Sox. It’s not like the Angels will be facing any more NL teams this year. LOL
Well said, but we can’t jump the gun here. The Angels could surprise everybody this year. .
Yes they could, and Disneyland could lower their admission price to a buck.
I’m starting to get the sense of bitterness.
Bitterness against what, the Angels’ annual Choke-tober or a company that promotes itself as “family-oriented” charging a family of four $250 just to get in the gate?
Marie, if Disneyland only cost a $1, Disney for one would lose lots of money. Not only would they lose their profits, but would go into the negative. Also, id Disneyland only cost $1, then you would have anybody going to the park including gangs. Disney has the right to do whatever they want, it’s their choice not yours.
Yes Stephen, I was seriously suggesting that Disneyland lower their admission to a dollar. Derrrr. But since you take me literally, why don’t you go jump off a bridge.
Then why make the comment?
Can someone get the boy a dictionary and turn it the page with “sarcasm”?
Can someone get the boy a dictionary and turn it to the page with “sarcasm”?
Make sure you read it too. By the way, do you really need to post double on here?
Apparently I do, Stephen. You’re just that slow.
By the way, this “Who wins Boston vs. Angels” poll is real unbiassed. Why does the Register even bother?
Because the Angels are in Orange County and this is the Orange County Register. Who do you want them to support? Texas?
How is it unbiased? We let you vote on every possibility. And if the OCR is in bed with the Angels and Ducks, why do we allow anti-Angel commenters?
It’s not unbiased, it’s biased. It’s biased because you know the local Angels are going to win virtually any Halos poll you put up. As far you allowing anti-Angels and Ducks commenters, you don’t. Not for long any way. I’ve seen a pattern of anti-Angels and anti-Ducks posters get banned, just as I suspect I will soon be banned for arguing with DarkAngel and Stephen—yet miraculously, they will be allowed to stay. Don’t believe me? Check the Ducks stories here on the Register’s website. NO anti-Anaheim commenters left. And I suspect it will remain that way now that one of your reporters has joined the Ducks’ radio boradcast team. I don’t blame you personally, Mr. Whicker. It’s just the way OC sports are. Rex Hudler is the most unprofessional broadcaster in MLB, rudely trash-talking other teams with his choice of words while praising the Angels to no end in his barf-mouth delivery. The Ducks have the same thing in Brian Heyward. Listen to Cryin’ Brian’s choice of words when he talks about other teams as compared to the Ducks. It’s classless. Every penalty against the Ducks is marginal, yet he has no problem announcing uncalled penalties against other teams any chance he gets. It’s truly sad that OC’s sports franchises choose to do business this way. You all could and should learn something about class from Vince Scully before it’s too late. He treats both teams with equal respect and knows his job is to announce the game in an unbiased manner, not be a fan of the home team.
mrie - Now I know you are INSANE! I have never heard Rex bash on any other team or player. You must be confused with the ESPN announcers anytime they call a Yanks or Redsox game. Rex has (too much) passion for baseball and I have heard him many times over praising other teams and other players, especially when they just made a great play or hit a homer.
Greetings All,
Red Sox fan here - But one who has an immense amount of respect for the Halos. It should be a great series either way it ultimately turns out. Good Luck!
I used to love the Red Sox, but now I’m an Angels fan. I hope the Angels break that Red Sox curse. I’ll be praying for the Angels.
While you’re at it, you may as well pray for a unicorn.
All I can say to all of these Angel Fans is, Boston will win. This asks for a prediction and there it is. Last year you had the best record in the American League and got spanked in the first round by the beloved Boston Redsox. We will again win the series this year on our way to another World Series ring.
Boston will win the series just like they did last year. No doubt.
Marie, What team are you rooting for in the playoffx?
Anyone playing the Angels.
POLL: Well if Dana Parson’s (Los Angeles Times Writer) Theory is correct, Things will turn out just like 2004, 2007, and 2008, and they will never see another World Series, not in my lifetime. For awhile, The Angels were not even bound for the post season until the Texas Rangers [==choke==] collapsed during the last third of the season, and The Halos had a suspicious freak power surge for a few weeks after the All Star Break.
By the way, The Register covers ALL the Major League Teams in The Southland (LA and OC), and The Angels may play in The OC, but they represent the City and County of Los Angeles now; and, the organization and a lot their fans (like . DarkAngelOC, and( Writer Jeff Miller) MOCK Orange County. That is why I am not an Angel Fan anymore. However, there are still a lot of Dodgers Fans who like both teams. The only Major League Orange County Team is The Anaheim (not LA) Ducks, and they have made it to the play-offs as much as The Angels since Y2K, and have gotten to the championship series TWICE.
Even if the Rangers didn’t choke and won the division, the Angels would still have won the Wild Card. Only the Yankees have a better record than the Angels in all of baseball this year.
Stephen, not true. The Rangers had a lot of games against the Angels at the end of the season. Had the Rangers not choked, the Angels record would not have been better than Boston’s.
Marie, iif the Angels were in any other division they would get to play teams like Baltimore, Kansas City, and Cleveland a lot more. Those teams do not make the AL Central and AL East stronger. I would love the Angels to play in the AL East, because they would get to play those teams more including the Yankees and Redsox.
Again Stephen, you spew invalid information. You never know how two teams will matchup over the course of a season, regardless of how bad one team may be. The worst team in baseball, if moved to the AL West, could somehow “own” the Angels. That might be enough to change the AL West standings drastically. Fortunately for you, we will never know because the Angels are gonna go on being a big fish in a small pond.
It’s not invalid. Look at the Angel stats against AL Central and AL East. The Angels records against them this year are winning records. The stats prove me right, so how can it be invalid? You can’t deny stats. I am trying not to disrespect your opion on how you feel about the Angels or how you feel that they will lose. It’s your opinion and I respect it. But when you think the Angels’ only reason to making the playoffs this year is because they are in the west, then I cannot respect that when the stats show the Angels are where they are because of their “overall” record against the AL Central, AL East and even the NL West. Math doesn’t lie. Please look at the stats.
Math may not lie, but you and DarkAngel do. I’m sorry you are unable to comprehend why your statements are inaccurate, but I’m done trying to explain it you. A Rottweiler has a better chance of understanding it.
Marie, everything you say has been assumptions. Where have I lied? I got the stats straight from ESPN.com? DarkAngel and I have not lied, there is no need for it.
Stephen, no need to continue with Marie. She is just a hater, plain and simple. You and I will never get any sort of just reply from her. I just hit the *ignore* button on her future comments.
Dark Angel, I agree.
Angels = Big fish in a small pond.
Marie, I agree.
Armada…what are you smoking today?? When have I ever mocked the OC?
YOU are not an Angel fan anymore because you turned your back on the team as soon as Arte inserted “Los Angeles” in the team name. You already admitted this in a previously posted comment so don’t start making stories up. You are so obsessed with the LA name “curse” that you not only turned your back on the Angels, but you also bash them at any chance given. Instead of praising the team on their offense and defense this year, you accused them of using PED’s..something your precious MANNY on the Doyers has been caught doing this year.
Uh-ohhhhh, someone’s whinin’ again. Miss your morning nap, DarkAngel?
Good morning Marie, you sexy little she-devil you!
No one here is whining. When you and Armada take shots at people it would be nice if BOTH of you had something to back it up with. I’ve called both of you out on your ridiculous comments and neither one of you have the grapefruits to reply with anything verifiable.
DarkAngel, their hatred for the Angel blinds them.
No DarkAngel, you have not done anythin except spew information that makes little or no sense. Until you can admit that the Angels have an advantage playing in the only four-team division in MLB, you have no credibility. At least man up and say “Yes, the Angels and the AL West have an advantage in making the playoffs, but I’m okay with that”. I know it’s tough, but give it a try, lil fella. Start by admitting 4 is a smaller number than 5 and 6. Baby steps.
I’ll never understand the issues with Los Angeles being in the name. Fine, I understand the bitter few in OC want it to be just Anaheim so Orange County can get some better notoriety and become more of a media market, BUT… the Angels original name was Los Angeles Angels, the networks and all were willing to offer more money for that to be in the name so why not take advantage of the money? Los Angeles, Anaheim, California, Crapistan… who cares? It’s the Angels… the logo, the players, the team is still the same. To hate just because of a ridiculous name change… not a real fan.
Hey, All you BOSTON Fans… go back to BAHHHSTON and pahhk the cahh fahhh. Take the 10 or the 15 and head east. Beat it.
Take the 15 East? Ladies and gentleman, we’ve found our numbskull.
Marie says:
No DarkAngel, you have not done anythin except spew information that makes little or no sense.
Marie - I would love for you to list this “info” that makes little or no sense to you, but I doubt you have anything to back it up with
Marie says:
Until you can admit that the Angels have an advantage playing in the only four-team division in MLB, you have no credibility. At least man up and say “Yes, the Angels and the AL West have an advantage in making the playoffs, but I’m okay with that”. I know it’s tough, but give it a try, lil fella. Start by admitting 4 is a smaller number than 5 and 6. Baby steps.
I see no advantage for the Angels playing in the AL West. Yes, our division has the smallest number of teams, so what? The Angels did not fare well against teams in their own division. Rangers owned us most of the season until the end, and the Mariners came close to splitting the season (10-9, Angels). We did much better against the AL East and we crushed the NL in Interleague play. Why don’t you cry about the Yankees whose payroll is DOUBLE that of the Angels and they only have one more team in their divsion. Take your issues up with Mr. Selig.
We the fans have no control over who plays in what divison and what the teams spend on payroll. Spending $$ on a team does not mean you are guaranteed to win the World Series or even make the playoffs. (See Mets and Yanks last 8-9 years)
Are we, as Angel fans, just supposed to put away our team gear, call it quits and root for someone else because we play in a smaller division?
I love how all the Angel haters changed their tune from “you suck”, “Angels are choking”, “not going to make the playoffs”, and “Rangers own us” (when the playoffs where questionable for the Angels) to (after winning the AL West): “Rangers choked”, “weak divison”, “Angels have a higher payroll”, etc…
Get real, haters.
Wow, I think someone is obsessed with me. *blush*
Well Marie, all this debating back and forth has gotten me all hot and bothered. I feel like we just had “angry sex” or something like that. I need a smoke…
Nice.
Boston beats you every postseason. What else matters? That’s right, nothing. The Angels are built for the regular season and the Redsox are built for the postseason. Sorry!
The bottom line is that the Angel fans live for the regular season stats and the Mighty Redsox live for the postseason. Nothing else matters so stop with all the Angels have a winning percentage against the AL East crap. Get use to your usual Boston spanking and go watch the Ducks.
My thoughts exactly, Jake. It’s kinda sad really that Angels fans waste their money at the Big A, season after season, falling for the Arte Moreno/Rex Hudler “This year will be different” hype. Anyone who’s not biased toward the Angels knows it’s time for Mike Scoscia to go and to take a new approach, but the Halos and their fans are all stuck in 2002.
And take that obnoxious Rally Monkey with him. Scoscia belongs in the National League. The Bobby Cox of the American League. Competitive teams year after year, but only one ring to show for it. Won’t happen this year either.
Amen to that, Jake.
and what happened to the Mighty RedSox????
The same thing that will happen the Angels against the Yankees. The AL East owns the Angels in the post season. It doesn’t matter who knocks out the Angels, just as long as someone does.
Hmm. Some pretty cocky comments from Boston fans here, hung up over their “past” world series wins. I’d a thought with the “spanking” the Yankees put on you guys this year you’d be a little more subdued. But apparently not. With an aging and banged up Red Sox you still cling to your past success. The past is the past my friend.
Welcome to the 2009 post season. Let the games begin!
We are in the playoffs, so once again who cares about the regular season and the Spankees. That’s the problem with the Angel fans. They love the fact that they won a division that was handed to them by the Money Poor Texas Rangers. The Rangers Owner Hicks had to borrow to make payroll. Regardless, if that’s what makes you happy then fine but our season is graded on the World Series Title and nothing less. You are simply a speed bump on our way to the crown. Enjoy another postseason on the sidelines. When you beat us then bring your smack, otherwise SHUT UP!
Um, Jake, this is an Angels poll on a news site in the Angels own backyard. There is no need to tell anyone to shut up, especially coming from an annoying Boston fan. You put in your two cents numerous times already so let others have their say.
DarkAngelOC, turn the light on and get a clue. The poll asked who will win the Boston/Angel series, you idiot. And the answer just like last year will be the Boys from Beantown. Your Angels play like t-ballers when the real boys come to town. Relax and enjoy the series and your short postseason run. That’s my say…
Who died and made you moderator, DarkAngel?
How about the “spanking” the Rangers put on the Angels this year, which is waaaaaay more humiliating when you compare the Angels $113 million team payroll to the Rangers $67 million payroll. Or don’t you want to talk about that because it makes the Angels look lame?
Yanks chose the 8 game ALDS option, so the Angels/Sox Series starts on Thursday.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091006&content_id=7366396&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Marie it’s not humilating, it’s very humbling. The Texas Rangers are a great team, because they have had high draft picks the past couple of years. Unfortunately, when you constantly win a Division such as the Angels, you don’t get those kind of draft picks. Eventually those players will cost you millions. Tampa Bay had a very low payroll last year and if they keep their key players, eventually their payroll will go up.
Mike Scoscia does not deserve to be manager of the year. The Rangers almost made something out of nothing. The Angels barely made something out of everything. The Rangers’ manager deserves it more than Scoscia without a doubt.
I see Marie is at it again seeking for that attention she never received as a child so now sadly she comes on the internet searching for it.
I see a few comments ago Marie you called Rex Hudler classless for his remarks he makes about other teams and players, which by the way I dont recall ever hearing him bad talk, but I see you always bad mouthing people on here and the teams these people cheer for and players, and does that mean you are classless as well? I think you are one of THE most disrespectful person I have ever seen type on here and I am glad that I dont know you personally and I am especially glad that you are not part of my family because you are a disgrace and flat out rude, and you are proud of being that, and especially glad that you are that way OVER THE INTERNET!?!? You are just a very sad person and I think most of us just feel sorry for you if anything. No go take your meds and relax a little bit…dont you have friends of your own that you can argue with in person rather then jumping on the internet to get your kicks in like you do!??? Strange soul you are.
Nice whiney rambling message there, skippy. I’m not an Angels announcer, I am a baseball fan, so it is not “unprofessional” of me to badmouth teams I do not like. Rex Hudler, on the other hand, should know better. Unprofessional announcers like Rex Hudler and the Ducks’ Brian Heyward also use a crutch by starting sentences “I like…” and “He’s saying…”, as if the players are there just for them or they are able to read players thoughts. Rex also seems to think he’s holding a baseball clinic on the air, which no one asked for. One can only hope that the reason Rex only does half the TV games now is because he is on his way out. In fact, Rex should not be on the air at all, he’s just that unprofessional.
Marie says:
October 6, 2009 at 5:34 pmMike Scoscia does not deserve to be manager of the year. The Rangers almost made something out of nothing.
you can not make something from nothing numbskull!
and the critical thinking award goes toooooooooooo MARIE!!!!
And the Angels can’t make anything in the post season except fools of themselves!!!
and the crybaby Angels fan of the year award goes tooooooo the dude!
Marie your annoying! Get a day Job!
Dee you’re (not your, sweetheart) annoying. Get an education!
Angels did not look like fools tonight. : ) Lets see how tomorrow night goes. Hopefully as good as tonight did.
Angels won a game in last year’s playoffs too. But please, get overly confident and cocky.
Oh, I’m not cocky. Just mearly pointing out they did not look like fools last night. I know 1 game is just that 1 game. We shall see how the next 2 playout. Hopefully they will be in our favor.
They didn’t look like fools in the playoff game they won last year either. The other three games, however…
Last years team was last years team. Yea we had some of the same players but this year they have an added fire. Well, looks like it to me anyway. I don’t think they will lose the next 3 straight. Even if they do lose tonight I really like our chances with Kazmir pitching on Sunday. Kazmir who we did not have pitching for us last year. Meh guess we will find out. I better get back to work..(graveyard sucks)…Go Angels.
I wonder if Beckett is going to throw high and tight at Abreu again.
I wonder if the classless John Lackey is going to intentionally bean any players this postseason.
Well, since he didn’t bean anyone after Hunter got hit…I would think not.
Hey, look at that. Game 2 and they still didn’t look foolish. Guess there is always Sunday for you huh? I’m still not cocky but I’m starting to get a bit more confident that this series is ours.
Listen Shana, Tampa Bay already beat Boston last year so it’s not undoable. Unless the Angels go all the way, they haven’t accomplished anything. Those were Mike Socia’s words at the start of the season, not mine. How confident are you that the Angels will be world champs?
I’m was taking it one series at a time especially since we have been talking about Angels/Boston. Since you asked though I am confident. I am not overly confident because assuming we do beat Boston the Yankees will be tough. I really feel whoever wins the AL will win the WS.
I would keep that comment that AL will win even if Boston came back to beat the Angels..then beat the Yanks. If your looking for a percentage…hmm that’s hard. I would say by how the team is playing right now that I am 95 percent sure we will beat the Yanks. However, should we win the series I bet doubts will creep in and I’ll start getting nervous and the percentage might dip down. We have beat the Yankees in the playoffs in the past.. We have beat the Yankees this season in the present. They will be tough and It will probably go 5 games. I guess the only thing I am overconfident about is that AL will win the WS.
Hey, regarding the whole “foolish” thing you have to admit that the Angels do look pretty good. Come on..I know its hard…but isn’t there a little piece of you that can say the Angels are playing well right now? I don’t like the Redsox but I do admire some of the players. The catch Lowell made at 3rd last night was phenomenal..and Ellsbury is as good a CF as Hunter and dare I say possibly even better.
I don’t know if any of these ramblings answer your question. LOL I worked a 15 hour shift last night…13 tonight and I am exhausted so I apologize in advance if none of this makes sense. For now..back to work for my last 2 hours.
Shana, Marie just does a lot of talking and now is going against her original thought of the Angels losing to Boston. She gave the impression that Boston was a better team than the Angels and that Boston desserved to be there more than them. Now that the Angels are up 2-0, she is saying big deal and now in order for them to get any possible respect, they have to win the World Series. You know what. in my book the Angels get my respect. I am proud of them whether they win or lose. They have played great and with a lot of heart. I am proud of them. It’s still early and I am not going to celebrate this early and anything can happen, but it’s not too early to say how proud of them I am for the way they have played so far.
Hey Stephen, that was Mike Scoscia’s statement, not mine. If you have a problem with that he said, why don’t you call Angel Stadium and give him a piece of your mind.
Marie my comment was about how kept saying how much better Boston was and how much the Angels wouldn’t even come close to beating Boston. Then you say beating Boston isn’t undoable. You went against your own words with that comment.
Stephen, check again. My comments were directed at the Angels record of poor post season performance, not the Red Sox strengths. What, are you going to try and deny now that Tampa Bay beat the Red Sox last year? It wouldn’t surprise me if you did, and if some of the Angels fans here backed you up, since most of you still can’t admit the Angels have an advantage playing in th smallest division in all of baseball. Go ahead, tell me how 4 isn’t a smaller number than 5 or 6, and how Tampa Bay didn’t beat the Red Sox in the playoffs last year.
Marie I’m not even going to bother. Cause it again truly doesn’t matter if you have four, five, six or seven teams in the division. The Angels had the second best record and their records against all the other teams prove they can beat the East and Central. If you don’t believe me on that, then look it up. Anyways, Tampa Bay did beat Boston last year. Tampa Bay did a great job of it and the Angels did a great job at it this year. They proved a lot of people wrong today and showed what they can do.
4 is smaller than 6, BUT…
Angels still played the same number of games, 162 (not counting the Twins/Tigers extra game) as EVERY other major league team in baseball. I have not done research, or care to, but the Angels either played a few games more with the other 3 teams in the ALW (Seattle, Oakland, Texas) or played a few games more with other teams in the central and eastern divisions.
Now, on a technicality, there is a “chance of” winning percentage greater in a smaller division.
ALW = 4 teams
Each team has a 25% chance of winning the division championship.
ALC = 5 teams
Each team has a 20% chance of winning the division championship.
ALE = 5 teams
Each team has a 20% chance of winning the division championship.
So it looks like the Angels, Mariners, A’s and Rangers have a 5% greater chance of winning their own division title over the other teams in the central division and east divisions would have winning their own title.
THANK YOU, DARKANGEL!! Finally!! That didn’t hurt so bad, did it?
Stephen I agree with you. Man I am proud of this team. They have overcome alot of adversity at the beginning of the season. I know everyteam goes thru injuries etc but our team got hit especially hard.
This team is playing with fire. To come back against one of the best closers of the game…wow. What a game 3! Bring on them Yanks!
See what I mean Shana? The Angels always end up looking stupid in the playoffs. Of course, now that the Yankees are proving me right, you will run and nhide like all Angels fans do in October.
Now that the series is over. I am a Angel fan that is coming on here to admit he was wrong. I voted in would take the Angels 4 games to win the series and not 3. I gave a little too much credit to Boston.
Again, I am very proud of this team. Lets Celebrate a little bit then move on to the next step.
Where is all the Boston fans? Yeah go hide, you got nothing to say!
Manny, where “is” all the Boston fans? Wow.
Well the good news is, with all the Yankees fans in California, maybe the can sell out a playoff game this round? I don’t mean the stadium falsely claiming its a sell-out, I mean an actual sell out. It was sad to see hundreds of empty seats on the outer part of the upper deck versus Boston. Someone wake up the rest of the bandwagon Angels fans, those empty seats are making California look bad.
And the Angels made you look bad. A true baseball fan doesn’t need to talk smack about other teams. Their loyalty and speaking positively about their own team is all they need to do. Your smack is not needed on here. Feel free to speak about the positives about the Yankees and what makes them great, but no need to keep talking smack on the Angels.
Then why do you talk smack about Boston, Stephen? Because you’re a hypocrite? Second, don’t tell me what I can and can’t say. I’ll talk as much smack about th Angels, or any other team, that I want.
Marie I haven’t talked smack about the Red Sox. I never once said they were a bad team. I only talked about why the Angels should get some more credit and why I thought this year could be different. There have been others talking smack about the Red Sox, but I haven’t. So, I’m not being hypocrite when it comes to talking smack any team.
You seem intelligent, Stephen, so I don’t understand why you cannot comprehend that the Angels (and other AL West tams) have an advantage when it comes to making the playoffs in the first place. It’s not about winning prcentags, it’s about how many other teams you have to beat to win the division. Whether you want to admit it or not, they do have an advantage. I would have a lot more respect for you, even if we aren’t rooting for the same team, if you would stop trying to deny the undeniable.
Maybe we have our point of views crossed. One thing that I will admit and agree with you, that percentage wise there is a better chance to winning a division when there is one less team in your division. You are definitely right in that. The reason I have disagreed with you so much on this, is because I was trying to show this was not the only reason the Angels made the playoffs. Did they have a better chance to win the divison? Yes they did. But the Angels actually had a better record against every other division which shows they possible still would of made the playoffs in any other division. Unfortunately all we have are “what ifs” and “what ifs” are exactly what they are.
Again, the Angels had a better chance to win the division with 4 teams in it, but being in the West cannot the deny the Angels they deserve to be in the playoffs with their records against teams in the Central and East.
I agree with you 100%, Stephen. I wish all Angels fans were like you!
When a team like the Angels has the 2nd best record in the Majors, the argument of divisional advantage is pointless. The Angels had a better record then all the West and Central teams, better then every National League team, and if they were in the East, they’d have been the Wild Card over the Red Sox. This “Divisional Advantage” argument is a non issue and is a dead horse. While the Angels can garner an advantage from playing in a smaller division, the advantage can only really be potentially seen in a situation the Twins and Tigers were in if they and Texas were in the same situation. Do the Angels have a potential advantage in their small division, maybe in the future when the Angels and another team are having 80+ win seasons and are scraping by to win the division with no hope for the wild card. This year? Definately not. 5 teams maybe greater then 4, but 2nd best in the majors is still greater then 3-30 and it’s that which really matters most.
Jiz, you are wrong. Again. Please re-read Stephen’s post and tell us which part you do not understand. Pointless is you arguing what the Angels record would be if they played in a different division, because you are ignoring he fact that their schedule would have been different. Your argument about the Angels landing the Wild Card if Texas had won the division also falls flat, because in your scenario Texas would’ve beaten Angels in more of those final season meetings, which would have meant the Angels would’ve had fewer wins overall. You really could learn a lot from Stephen. He obviously loves the Angels, but he doesn’t try to deny indisputable facts. If more Halos fans were like Stephen, and fewer were like you, I would actually root for the Angels.
Naaa… I’m right. I know very well I’m right. The record speaks for itself. The record and the extra games against the East and the Central speak for themselves. I’ll let you continue having your fun trying to run people down, trying to make you feel better about yourself and feel somehow… relevant. So continue on, enjoy yourself. Onto the Angels Yanks blogs for me. Oh and one more thing Marie… if you have such a big problem with the Angels so called advantage in the West, why don’t you send a cute little message to the commish and voice your displeasure over the alignment of the divisions and demand a shift. Demand that one of the extra NL teams be moved to the AL and an AL team be shifted to the West. That gives me an idea… shift Houston to the NL West (If Texas can be in the AL West, Houston can move to the NL West), then move Colorado to the AL West. That way, when the Angels are blasting through the AL West in the future and into the playoffs, we don’t have to hear anymore of the intolerable argument that the Angels are only in because of an “advantage” which is basically how you’re making it to look and not because maybe they are just that good. After all… they did sweep the Sox. Bye!!
Naaaaa…you are an ignoramus. I know very well you are a ignoramus. Your comments speak for themselves. I’ll let you continue to spew inaccurate information and verbally abuse anyone who does not believe your lies, trying to make you feel better about your Angels. If you have so much confidence in your beloved Angels, why don’t YOU send a cute little message to the commish and ask him to add a fifth team to the AL West. By the way, that wasn’t YOUR idea to move Houston to he NL West and Colorado the AL West–I posted the exact same thing here several months ago, only to be attacked by other insecure Angels fans. But I am proud of you for finally coming around. It is the only way the Angels can ever be considered true champions if/when they go all the way. Unlike their so-called “championship” in 2002, I would be the first to congratulate them if they won a World Series coming from a five team division. Later Jizzm!
I’m done on the back and forth on the Angels topic with this… but as far as verbal abuse, you better check yourself at the door because the one who’s been poppin off with the name calling, the insults etc has been primarily you. For the most part I’ve been very civil in what I’ve had to say until maybe my last few posts. You’ve been the attacker. You’ve been the one verbally abusing not just myself but just about any other Angels supporter on here. It’s because of that as well and your need in doing so which makes you irrelevant. The fact that you cannot come here and be civil by any means. I was with you even to start, until you started attacking me and even then… that took some time. By the way, it’s J-Dizzle to you. Later Ms. Irrelevance.
You have just proven yourself to be a liar, Jizzm. Thought you were out of here and done with me? If so, why did you come back? Perhaps because you are an insecure lil Angel fan who will do anything, including lie, to make his team seem better than they actually are? Bingo!
Marie said:
Unlike their so-called “championship” in 2002, I would be the first to congratulate them if they won a World Series coming from a five team division. Later Jizzm!
Holy smokes! First it’s “Angels can’t beat Boston” then the Angels 2002 WS win is “so-called”.
Now it’s only a WS win if we come from a 5+ team division (Angels, along with the Rangers, A’s and Mariners only have a 5% greater chance of winning the AL West title over the other teams in the AL Central and AL East do winning their distinctive titles).
Next Marie will be stating that it’s not anything special unless the Angels win back to back to back WS titles like the Yanks…
…Then the Angels title wins are tainted because “Los Angeles is in the name”…
…because “the rally monkey is a trademark infringement on the Ace Ventura movie franchise…
…because Mike Scioscia wears his old Dodger shirt underneath his Angels jersey…
…because Rex Hudler bashes the other teams on air…
…because OC has real Housewives and not a real baseball team…
…because the Angels spent way more on their team then the other teams in the AL West did and only the Yanks are allowed to spend more…
…because Arte Moreno is hispanic and is probably not even a US citizen…
…because the Rally Monkey distracts other teams playing @ the Big A…
…because Hooters gives free wings if the Halos score more than 10 runs and this is a total disadvantage for opposing teams…
…because MARIE IS TOTALLY MISERABLE, A TRUE ANGELS HATER AND WILL NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR THE ANGELS EVEN IF THEY WON 20 BACK TO BACK WS TITLES WITH 10 TEAMS IN THE AL WEST!
Poor lil insecure fella. By the way, I have ALWAYS questioned the Angels 2002 championship, that is nothing new. A Wild Card team from a four team division? Seriously, what a joke. Why not decide the World Series on a coin flip at that point?
Marie wrote;
A Wild Card team from a four team division? Seriously, what a joke. Why not decide the World Series on a coin flip at that point?
Tell me this, B R A I N I A C: WHAT is the difference if a wild card winner comes from a 4 team division or a 5 team division?
I’ll make it easy for you - there are 14 total teams in the American League.
The AL Wild Card winner is the team with the best record from a total of 11 other teams who DID NOT win their division title (West, Central, East).
So, with all the teams from the other divisions in the mix, can you honestly say that it matters how many teams are in ONE division? N-O.
So, once again:
WHAT is the difference if a wild card winner comes from a 4 team division or a 5 team division?
Please don’t repeat yourself for the 100th time with “4 is smaller than 5 or 6 B.S.” because with ALL the other teams in the mix, it don’t matter honey!
Wild card winners are up against ALL the other teams who did not clinch their division >>> 11 total teams in the American League.
Now, if you were to say the AL wild card winner has an advantage over the NL wild card winner, that is true. 14 teams in the AL vs. 16 teams in the NL.
14 IS smaller than 16 – D’OH!!
****HALOS - 2009****
I’m not a fan of the Wils Card system at all, regardless of the division. Listen, your fellow Angel fan, Stephen, also agrees the AL West teams have an advantage coming from the only four tam division. Why don’t you aim our attack a him as well? Do you only spew BS at non-Angels fans? Or are you afraid that he, too, will shred you like cheese?
I’m not a fan of the Wild Card system at all, regardless of the division. Listen, your fellow Angel fan, Stephen, also agrees the AL West teams have an advantage coming from the only four team division. Even Halo fan J-Dizzle has admitted the same. Why don’t you aim our attack at them as well? Do you only spew your BS at non-Angels fans? Or are you afraid that they, too, will shred you like cheese? Not that I mind exposing you for the boob you are, but it does get old dancing circles around your lame excuses.
LOL!!!!! Here you go again Marie, rambling on and on and beating around the bush because once again LOGIC has thrown you a curve ball (pun intended).
Do this Marie - grow a pair and defend your own blasting of baseball non-sense instead of avoiding the simple question I asked you:
WHAT is the difference if a wild card winner comes from a 4 team division or a 5 team division?
That’s all I ask. You ALWAYS change the subject and get defensive when someone calls you out on your BS with LOGIC.
I already made the point you couldn’t seem to explain correctly about the 4 vs. 5 teams in a division debate somewhere above this post (I see you already thanked me…)
Now you go and cry and look for shelter from Stephen and J-Dizzle? You are something special dear. Did you take the short bus to school ALL your life?
…Me being afraid of getting “shredded like cheese’?
Honey, please. You have done ZERO to prove you have any credibility to come on here and talk smack. You’re like an itch on my groin area, annoying until I scratch you a little then you go away but always seem to come back for more.
Now, if ANYONE - I mean ANYONE, Angel Fan or not can explain to me WHAT in the world the difference is if a wild card winner comes from a 4 team division or a 5 team division, I will gladly acknowledge that on here that I was WRONG.
JUST PROVE IT….
****HALOS – 2009****
Oh look, Dark Angel has written me another book. Obsessed much, lil man? Gotta love how you try to twist facts instead of admitting what your fellow Angels fans alread have—that teams in the AL West have an undeniable advantage to making their playoffs as the division winner. C’mon you ball less wonder, start by admitting 4 is a smaller number than 5 and 6. You can do it. Then and only then, we’ll work on getting you to admit the Angels are a big fish in a small pond.
Just like I thought. No facts, only fiction from Marie. All bluff and no stuff.
Here is the 4/5/6 reference for the 101st time and another aquarium analogy.
Once again Marie, since the short bus left you on the curb with your thumb in your mouth…
WHAT is the difference if a wild card winner comes from a 4 team division or a 5 team division?
Baby steps Marie… the 4/5/6 rule shows a 5% advantage for all teams in the AL West clinching a TITLE over the other divisions clinching their titles. We went over this already. This does not affect wild card status, as you have failed to prove that it does.
You need to build a bridge and get over it.
Just in case you forgot, or you’re hitting that bong again tonight:
WHAT is the difference if a wild card winner comes from a 4 team division or a 5 team division?
Is it that hard? I bet I can ask my neighbors garden gnome and get a better response.
How about surprising us just for once, like the Angels shocked the world this week and just answer the dang question, or you can get swept under the rug like your beloved RedSox did with more false mumbo jumbo that emanates from the shortage of brain cells you possess. Choice is yours dear. Answer the question with logic if you have the grapefruits, Miss Fountain of Misinformation.
Sorry DarkAngel, I’m not answering your questions until you answer mine first. It’s a pretty basic one. Is 4 a smaller or larger number than 5? And is 4 a smaller or larger number than 6? Feel free to use your fingers if you need to. If that doesn’t work, ask mommy.
Oh Marie would you please shut the hell up already! Everyone knows that 5 and 6 are greater then 4 and he’s already suggested in several of his posts as such. But that ONLY goes so far when you’re winning the Division. WITH THAT SAID! Once the division winners are crowned (because you only have to beat the other teams in your division), the Wild Card is then determined by who is left in all of the other divisions. That of course means, the remaining 3 in the West, followed by the 4 in the Central and the 4 in the East. 11 teams duking it out for the Wild Card spot. Since every team plays 162 games (unless there is a tiebreaker), and the games the West doesn’t play against another West team is split amongst the Central and East teams, the playing field is evenly matched up in such a way there is no real distinct advantage for the remaining teams. The Wild Card is just that, the best of the rest. Now Marie, can you acknowledge that? Or does acknowledging that mean that the Angels 2002 World Series suddenly becomes relevant and of course the almighty Marie cannot have that!? It’s sad seeing you perched up holding onto that 4/5 argument for so long while people like Dark Angel here and J-Dizzle and a few others make you look stupid, and then you yourself making you look stupid with the same old tired comeback followed by the insecure need to take potshots at each one of them as a means of compensating for your inability to really truly make a solid inarguable statement.
With a name like Captain Obvious, you should know that the Angels did not win the Wild Card this year, they won their division. Yes, the AL West, the only pathetic division in MLB where beating just three teams, two of which almost alway blow, gets you into the playoffs. And all the Angels had to do was spend $45 million more than second place Texas. Now THAT, my friends, is a division championship well-earned. LOL Give me a break. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again—the Angels are a big fish in a small pond.
Marie, did you lose track somewhere in all these posts? Myself and everyone else know that the Angels aren’t the Wild Card this year but it was brought up about the 2002 Angels having been the Wild Card and thus you questioning the relevancy of said run. These past few posts have been about your judgment in questioning said run with this statement:
“Unlike their so-called “championship” in 2002, I would be the first to congratulate them if they won a World Series coming from a five team division. Later Jizzm!”
Followed by:
“Poor lil insecure fella. By the way, I have ALWAYS questioned the Angels 2002 championship, that is nothing new. A Wild Card team from a four team division? Seriously, what a joke. Why not decide the World Series on a coin flip at that point?”
The point then was brought up of course with the fact that being in a 4 team division is completely and totally baseless because the Wild Card is decided amongst the remaining 11 teams in the American League. While the prospect of being in a 4 team division can obviously give an insignificant and minor possible advantage for the Division Winner of being in the playoffs because they aren’t a 5 team division, it cannot be ignored that the last spot is part of a duel among the remainder of the teams that are left. Though they may not have won their division in 2002, the Angels earned the right to be in that playoff by being the best of everyone else, irregardless of their division and were able to not only go through the “so called” best of the 3 divisions but also the champion of the National League.
But you know, while we’re at it. Let’s question the advantage that the West and East NL teams have by being in a 5 team division when they aren’t in a 6 team division like the Central. Can we start that argument now!? We can? Cool… alright! I’d like to declare the 1st round losers of the 2009 MLB Playoffs… the St Louis Cardinals to be the ONLY relevant team in the playoffs this year!! Oh, and if there is suppose to be a said division advantage to determining the Wild Card, I’d also like to call into question the Rockies who bowed out to the Phillies, their presence in the playoffs since they didn’t come from a 6 team division! Starting to sound pretty stupid and redundant huh Marie? Just like this whole back and forth 4 team 5 team 6 team Wild Card whatever the hell. How bout this, the league is what it is. the MLB decided to have 16 teams in the NL and 14 in the AL.
The AL West is in the position that it’s in because of the corporate sponsors, the commish and the owners of the MLB are all cuddled up with one anothers financial pockets and the teams and the players can only do with what’s given to them. All in all, everyone still has to play 162 games and overall, the MLB tries to balance out the schedule and the games each team plays in their division as well as against other divisional foes as best that can so not to offer a total disadvantage (such as making one central team face the Yankees 4 times and the Orioles 8 while another team gets vice versa) to any particular team.
As far as payroll goes, that’s a determination by the General Managers and the Owners of a team on what they want to pay who how they balance their payroll with the players they have on hand. Younger players of course tend to be inexpensive and credit should be granted to the farm systems who have developed and nurtured those players. When they come up and are “MLB Ready”, they should already be capable of playing at a level of capacity that gets every day innings. One example, Kendry Morales of the Angels. 34 HR, 108 RBI’s, .306 Avg and only $1.1 mil. The Rangers have a glut of young inexpensive guys who can produce and produce well much like Kendry has for the Angels. The Angels on the otherhand, have veterans capable of producing, but because of their time in the league obviously garner bigger contracts. Not everyone can be so lucky to have a low payroll and big results. That credit goes to the scouts and the general managers as well as the farm system for bringing about such results. It also should be noted that years of humility, making good draft picks especially higher in the draft, and trading away solid players for picks can garner the future results that teams like the Rangers and some others are lucky to have. You I’m sure have seen the trend as of late with bad teams trading off their best players for several picks. Also, while the Angels do have a $45 million advantage in payroll, 25 of that is tied into a Gary Matthews Jr who plays as a 5th outfielder option and Vlady who we have this season has been hardly effective and definitely not worth the money he’s getting. You cast those 2 aside and mix in the 10 mil that Kelvim Escobar made for pitching 1 game this year and suddenly that advantage is just about gone. $35 million in players who have been a virtual non factor in determining the entire Angels season. I’d mix in the detriment that the $4.75 mil earning Justin Speier was but I think you get the idea.
Big fish small pond? I guess you could call the AL a small pond, I mean 14 teams and all. The NL has 16. I guess the big pond is in the NL. Ahh well, the only “relevant” team has been eliminated in a league that doesn’t have a DH so I guess it’s time to find out who’s the best of the remaining “so called” division winners with their advantages of being in a smaller division.
Vlady who we have seen this season*
Captain Obvious, AKA DarkAngel, no one cares what you have to say. Why should anyone waste on you the amount of time it would take to read that book you just wrote? Get a clue. Who knows, maybe you made a point in there. Unfortunately we’ll never know because your contribution went unread by me and by many others, I suspect. YANKEES IN SIX GAMES!!! Angels = Big fish in a small pond.
Sorry I’m not Dark Angel. Don’t mean to disappoint ya. There is plenty in there to read sure but it strikes many valid points. But I guess it’s easy to see that it’s too much for that little brain of yours to handle. Though from that long post there you’ll see that the entire AL is effectively nothing but big fish in a small pond. Read it all over some time. Maybe in parts. Read it slow though so you can take it all in.
It has nothing to do with the size of my brain, little man. The fact of the matter is you are boring and have nothing of substance to say. Sorry, but you’re just not worth it. I’m sure it’s not the first time you’ve heard those words from a woman.
I had plenty there to say of interest. The problem is Marie that I had nothing of interest to you to say. Why is that? Because I’m not agreeing nor going along with any of what you have to say, so it’s not of interest to you. Now if I was sitting here agreeing with everything you had to say instead, you’d be completely different about it. As far as ladies go, I don’t have that problem of hearing that seeing as I don’t approach low class trash like yourself for a good time. Now if that’s the best shot at me you can taken then I suggest coming up with something else because that’s the equivalent of a pissed off ex girlfriend telling her ex that she faked it in front of all his friends to try to embarrass him. I dare ya though, go back and read it. One little part in there I actually agree with ya on. Other parts, I agree with Dark. Then I add a bit more to quash and bring some sense to everything.
Let’s see…nope, still not interested. But thanks for playing. Tell him what’s won, Johnny—
Let’s see…nope, still not interested in reading it. But thanks for playing. Tell him what he’s won, Johnny—
Johnny: It’s a towel! For cleaning up the crap that Marie has spit all over the floor, for wiping the tears from her eyes after the brain pain that will come if she ever reads the long post and for DarkAngel, so he can clean up his mess after getting “hot and bothered” in an earlier post. LOL
Speakin of Dark, I wonder where he went. He was hilarious and I laughed for several minutes when I read that post about the whole hot and bothered and angry sex. Even funnier was your smile response and saying nice. That was classic.
You two pantloads should worry less about me and worry more about what happened to your lil ballclub in game one vs the Yankees. Those 3 errors were the funniest thing in MLB history! “You catch the ball, no you catch the ball, let’s stand here and look at each other and let it fall between us” LOL Derrr my name is Hunter and I’ll just scoop this here ball up…OOPSIE DOODLE…ball go bye-bye. HAHA!!! Fee fi fo fum, I’m John Lackey and I sit on my thumb. Derrrrr, I can’t make a pickoff throw to save my life. FUNNY STUFF, DUDES!!! Looks like once again this postseason, the AL East will own the Angels. I’d say “maybe next year”, but we all know better than that, don’t we?
I see the closet Angel fan was watching the game. Hey, mistakes happen and the Angels had their worst game of the season in that one game. Now that they have that out of their system they can continue to play ball. The Figgins/Aybar thing was inexcuseable, the Hunter thing was just a bad hop in the outfield and pitchers sometimes make bad throws to first. He’s not the first and wont be the last. Everyone does it. We’ll see how game 2 unfolds. It’s a 7 game series for a reason. Angels only need to win 1 on the road and their 3 at home.
Uhhhhh ya, I was watching the game because I’m a closet Angels fan. You continue to dazzle me with your logic. Or should I say lack of.
By the way DarkAngel, I guessed I just HOPED you two are the same person because I don’t want to believe there is more than one such douche chunk, but sadly, it is so. Not sure who this takealick person is tha you’re talking about, but I’m glad to hear there is someone else who likes to expose you for the loser you are. It’s not like it’s hard, but it sure is fun!
I predict Game 2 vs the Yankees will also end with an Angel making a bonehead play, allowing New York to win.
Guess we know Mariano Rivera’s playoff secret. Lord knows, A-Roid’s came out long ago. Check this!
http://www.halosheaven.com/2009/10/19/1092390/mariano-rivera-caught-doctoring
They only have an advantage when the 2 best teams of the division have the poorer records like the Twins and Tigers had and one manages to scrape by. When a team like the Angels has the 2nd best record in the majors, there is no advantage. Simply put, they played excellent baseball over the course of the season. Even if Texas managed to have a better record then the Angels, the Angels would have still made it in via wild card. Oh, and btw, HOW SWEEP IT IS! Bring on A-Roid and the Yankees.
Oh look, more inaccurate statements by Jizzm. What a shock.
Oh and before ya get all whatever about me posting on here again and me having said bye.. I’m not here to do a back and forth. As I said before… I’m done with that. Just wanted to do a little “exposure” if you will.
ta ta!!